WOR: WBD/Netflix deal, John Cena

Dave Meltzer and I are back with the Friday edition of Wrestling Observer Radio, talking about the big news from today’s issue of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter.

Here were some of the things we discussed:

  • The WBD/Netflix deal and how AEW may or may not be affected
  • TNA’s TV deal
  • John Cena on Bill Simmons
  • Freddie Prinze Jr. on the ESPN/WWE deal
  • Trish Speirs’ piece on Hiroshi Tanahashi’s retirement

Click here to listen (sub needed) or watch on YouTube

Fight Game: Who will win the 2025 AEW Continental Classic?

John LaRocca and Garrett Gonzales return with a brand-new Fight Game to discuss some of the most interesting topics in pro wrestling this week.

After doing our Thumbs Up/Thumbs Down segment, we hit on our major topics of the week which included:

  • Freddie Prinze Jr. and his comments about the WWE/ESPN relationship
  • The new TNA TV deal with AMC
  • Who we think will win this year’s Continental Classic
  • Looking forward to John Cena’s last match

Click Here to Listen (sub needed)

Freddie Prinze Jr. claims ESPN is ‘so unhappy’ with WWE deal

According to Freddie Prinze Jr., ESPN is not happy with its WWE media rights deal.

The actor and former member of the WWE creative team discussed Survivor Series 2025 on the latest episode of his Wrestling With Freddie podcast. He also mentioned that ESPN is “hot” about the deal.

“ESPN, by the way, is so unhappy with the deal,” Prinze Jr. said while laughing.

I was talking to a friend of mine who works for Disney, and he was just like, ‘Yo, they’re so… they better make their money back on this deal.’ Like, he said they’re hot.”

“Guys, we need to buy more PLEs,” Prinze Jr. added.

Earlier on the show, he expressed frustration with the ESPN app, complaining that he gets signed out too often and then has to go through a long process to get logged back in.

WWE announced a deal in August that saw the company’s premium live events move to ESPN. The deal, which began with September’s Wrestlepalooza event, is reportedly worth $1.6 billion over five years.

Prinze Jr’s comments about ESPN being unhappy with its WWE deal begin around the 22-minute and 30-second mark of the podcast (episode below is cued).

Freddie Prinze Jr. gives update on plans to start wrestling promotion

In a new episode of his Wrestling With Freddie podcast, actor Freddie Prinze Jr. gave an update on his long-held plans to start a wrestling promotion and where things currently stand.

Prinze shared that he’s had several meetings regarding the project, naming Warner Bros. Discovery and Vice TV as two of the places he met with. The meeting with WBD did not go well. The Vice meeting was positive, but Vice TV could not afford the show.

“We went to Warner Discovery, which was like the worst meeting that I had out of all of them. They basically just wanted me to do a reality show by the end of the pitch and knew nothing about wrestling and didn’t seem to care for wrestling at all,” Prinze said. “So it was not a good meeting. I must have failed at some point in the pitch because they were not interested in what I was saying. I gave the same pitch to everyone else — it was the only place that didn’t work.

“I also pitched to — what was it? Vice? Yeah, Vice TV. And they wanted the show bad, but they were going under some business restructuring — trying to basically stay on the air — and they couldn’t afford the show at the end of the day. That was a place I really wanted to go because they have Dark Side of the Ring and I thought we could be a cool pairing with them. So I was disappointed there.”

Prinze said there were a couple of other places where meetings went well, but he was not pitching to people high enough on the totem pole who could get his idea heard by the top decision-makers.

The original concept Prinze had was a show where the first six episodes would be a documentary about him trying to put his new promotion together. The next two episodes would then be two-hour specials from the promotion. But Prinze met with a new streaming company that was not interested in the documentary and instead just wanted a pro wrestling promotion. Prinze did not reveal the name of the streaming company yet as they are still working together to make this project happen.

“So I sit and I talk to this new company that wants to talk to me about wrestling and they’re not interested in the documentary at all. They want a professional wrestling promotion,” he said. “This was like an hour and a half meeting. And they’re asking me all kinds of questions. ‘How would you compete? How would you do this? Do you want to compete? Do you just want to exist? Do you want to be the highest-rated show? Do you want to be the second-highest?’ And they were like, ‘Please, be honest. We want you to be real with us.’ So I’m answering all their questions and they’re real upfront on their finances, where they’re at, what they can afford, what they can pull off, and how they would pull it off. And it was unorthodox to me, but not to them. Because it was the first time I had ever heard of financing shows this way and doing things the way they were wanting to do it. But I try to stay open-minded, right? I want to have a promotion. So I’m listening, I’m listening. Then I start asking them questions for about 30 minutes, and they start explaining their philosophies, their business philosophies more and more clearly.”

Over the course of trying to get this show made, Prinze has realized that starting anything new in Hollywood right now is “borderline impossible.” The streaming company has come up with the idea for this project to move forward with Prinze partnering with an existing independent promotion. They have identified the promotion they want to work with and had a really good meeting with them.

“I come to the cold realization that I can’t start it from scratch,” Prinze said. “And it’s a humbling moment and it’s a sad moment. And then the dude that I’m talking to calls me up and he says, ‘Hey, what if we grab someone else and brought them in as a partner?’ I said, ‘What do you mean?’ He says, ‘What if you work within an existing brand?’ And he says, ‘Here’s some independent promotions that are looking for TV deals.’ They want to offer me the opportunity to tell my story and to present my promotion within the existence of another one. Sort of like how Ring of Honor exists with AEW.

“So I start sitting down and thinking about that and I start looking at the rosters of the places that they brought me and the infrastructure that each one already has or does not have. And I start weighing the pros and cons. I talk to my guys that are a part of my team and say, ‘Hey, these are the ones that I’m interested in, but what do you think?’ My main guy, my right-hand happened to like the exact same one that I liked for the exact same reasons that I liked it.”

Prinze believes things are going to move forward, but it’s not a done deal yet. Lawyers are going to get involved, people still have things to think about, and it’s possible their plans could fall apart. If the project does happen, part of Prinze’s idea is that he would help find talent that need a fresh coat of paint, need a fresh start, are young and need work, or are veterans that do not currently have a story.

While there’s still a long road ahead, Prinze is committed to making his dreams come true. He encouraged everyone listening to keep chasing their dreams too.

“I am doing my damndest to make this work. I am doing my damndest to make my dreams come true,” he said. “I have not accepted a closed door, as much as they hurt. I keep finding other ones — or they find me. One way or the other. But you have to be ready when opportunity comes.”

A long-time wrestling fan, Prinze is a former writer for WWE. He recently hosted the first three seasons of WWE Rivals on A&E.

Freddie Prinze Jr. confirms ‘creative offer’ made to Bray Wyatt

While he doesn’t have his wrestling promotion launched as of yet, actor and former WWE creative team member Freddie Prinze Jr. is still forging on and confirmed Wednesday that he has made an offer to Bray Wyatt.

Answering a question on his Wrestling with Freddie podcast, he confirmed that he put out a “creative offer” to Wyatt but it’s not looking like he will take it.

“Financially, I wouldn’t be able to compete with WWE, but I put other things in there that are more important to Bray,” Prinze Jr. said. “I don’t think I’m going to get it as the weeks go on, but we’ll see.”

Wyatt was to be the central figure that the wrestling end of things would revolve around, but Prinze said if he doesn’t get him, he will find someone else and this is just a speed bump in the road.

Released by WWE in July 2021, Wyatt is expected to return and be the reveal behind the recent White Rabbit viral campaign that has played out on WWE TV over the past few weeks — one that will likely come to fruition at Saturday’s Extreme Rules.

If that happens, it would be the second wrestler Prinze Jr. was eyeing that signed with WWE as in August, he said he had spoken to Karrion Kross and was planning on him being their first champion. Kross returned to WWE in early-August.

Prinze Jr. said he is still moving ahead with plans for his wrestling promotion, something he first revealed this past May

“I have a finished draft, a finished script. I have two producers that are both interested in wanting to partner up with me on this. I don’t have a TV deal in place but I have…very close to that,” he said, adding that he is working on filling out a roster and that he already has secured the services of a female star “that people know and love.”

He didn’t rule out working with WWE and AEW with regard to talent, acknowledging that any WWE talent would likely be in a backstage role while AEW is more freer with their contracts.

No timeline was given for when he hopes to launch, but in May, he said he wanted to launch within 18 months.

Freddie Prinze Jr. says Karrion Kross was to be his promotion’s first champion

Freddie Prinze Jr. had big plans for Karrion Kross to be part of his promotion. 

Earlier this year, Prinze revealed that he has plans to start his own wrestling company “within the next 18 months.” According to comments he made recently on his Wrestling With Freddie podcast, Karrion Kross was to be the company’s first champion. 

“I’m working hard at it,” Prinze said about the promotion he plans to create. “My champion, and I’d spoken with him a lot, was going to be Killer Kross. He was my guy, I was building the whole thing around him. We had kind of worked on the story, we had talked about philosophy, talked about his character, his wife’s character, with the caveat of, ‘hey, you can’t hold your career up to make my thing go.’ So I said if you get other offers, you need to make a living, go make a living.”

Prinze then revealed that he spoke with Kross the night before his return on SmackDown last Friday. 

“It was actually Thursday, the day before SmackDown, I get a text that says, ‘hey man, I need some advice, let’s chat.’ And so I already know, I already know, and I almost wrote him the day before, ‘hey with Vince gone you’re going to get a call from Hunter.’ I literally wrote this text, and I said ‘and he’s going to offer you the moon and if you say no you are out of your mind so don’t trip.’ Then I deleted the whole text and instead, I just sent him a picture from this storyboard guy that is doing part of the show for me so that I can pitch it properly. I just sent him a picture of some of the storyboard stuff instead because I didn’t want to freak him out.” 

“The very next day I get this text from him, ‘can we talk, I need some advice.’ We start chatting and he says, ‘I talked to Hunter, they made an offer and it’s real and I think I believe him when he’s telling me what’s going to happen and you and I need to talk.’ I said, ‘yeah brother’ and I told him what I just told you, I was like, ‘dude, I wrote you a text yesterday that I deleted because I knew this was going to happen once Vince left the company.'”

“We talked about it and I said, ‘look, you’d be crazy to chase my dream in place of yours.’ Your dream was never to be – I don’t want to say the name of my federation – your dream was never to be the Freddie P champion, it was to be the WWE Champion. I said, ‘I couldn’t hold you up from that.'”

“I want to see you succeed at the highest level and my federation is not going to be at the highest level, that’s WWE forever. We’re talking and he goes, ‘that’s funny, that’s the same thing my mom said.’ And I said, ‘dude, always listen to your mother, always listen to your mother.'”

“We hang up and then the next day I’m watching this segment with Roman Reigns and Drew and all of a sudden my champion runs out and just kills Drew and puts him on the clock. And I remember being like, ‘oh, they are putting a rocket ship on this man, which is what they should have done the first damn time.'”

Wrestling Observer Live: NXT 2.0, WrestleMania in Philadelphia, McMahon, Riddle, and more!

Wrestling Observer Live with Mike Sempervive is back to span the globe of professional wrestling, and delve into such topics as Philadelphia being named the home of 2024’s WrestleMania 40, and Matt Riddle being knocked off SummerSlam with a BRACHIAL PLEXUS injury.

Plus, reports on McMahon’s McManagement, Freddie Prinze Jr’s comments on Kevin Dunn, a strong Raw rating, and – of course – the world-renown NXT 2.0 on USA Network report, and much more. It’s a fun show as always so check it out~!

Right click save as

Fight Game: Freddie Prinze Jr.’s wrestling promotion idea, Owen Cup fantasy booking

John LaRocca and I are back with another Fight Game Podcast. 

We first talk about Freddie Prinze Jr.’s idea for a wrestling promotion before moving on to which matches at Sunday’s WrestleMania Backlash are must-see for us. 

We go over last week’s NXT releases and try to rank them based on priority of who we would sign. 

Lastly, we review AEW Dynamite and hit on these specific topics in detail:

  • How over Wardlow was with the live crowd
  • Adam Page heeling on CM Punk and one specific fan
  • The nonsensical segment with The Varsity Blonds
  • Fantasy booking the Owen Cup
  • Thunder Rosa’s promo with Serena Deeb

Click below to listen.

Right Click Save As

Wrestling Observer Live: Freddie Prinze Jr, AEW Dynamite, NXT Spring Breakin

Wrestling Observer Live with Mike Sempervive is back with a ton to talk about including the news that Freddie Prinze Jr is looking to start up his own company, last night’s NXT Spring Breakin, a preview of AEW Dynamite and much more. A fun show as always so check it out~!

Right click save as

Freddie Prinze Jr. reveals plan to start wrestling promotion in next 18 months

Actor and former WWE creative team member Freddie Prinze Jr. has outlined his plan to start his own pro wrestling promotion in the next 18 months: one that could see him potentially run up to three years while not making money.

The subject was first broached on a recent interview he did on Ariel Helwani’s MMA Hour. On his Wrestling With Freddie podcast Wednesday, he said he finally wanted to talk more about his dream of doing it.

The promotion has yet to be named.

How it started

The bug to start his own group began when he helped out a friend who was working for an unnamed promotion that was looking to get a TV deal. After meeting with the promoter and understanding the product, Prinze agreed to help make some connections even though he and the promoter came at things from two different philosophies.

After a meeting with The CW, he and the organization parted ways and the group later got a deal according to Prinze. But he said the experience was like being in a dream that he didn’t want to wake up from so he began outlining a plan for his own group.

He began by talking to his accountant who said he needed to start working again so he didn’t need to dip into his savings he built over years when he was acting regularly. 

While he fell in love with acting again doing a romantic comedy for Netflix, he talked to podcaster Sam Roberts who suggested he check out GCW. From there, Prinze started doing a deep dive into all kinds of promotions, listening to podcasts from Jim Cornette and wrestlers to understand their philosophies, talking to people involved in the business, and scouting local venues.

The plan

“I started saying I can accelerate the plan or keep the plan as it is, do a few more (movies), and own the space which I believe is the plan I’m going to execute,” he said.

That plan will be to get his fledgling group up and running within 18 months. It could be sooner but that would require Prinze to move to Australia and leave his family for three months, presumably for a high-paying acting job.

Prinze said he has a commercial realtor friend already looking at properties as he hopes to have a full-time home for the group.

He said that the plan was originally to run for two years without needing to make money but now, he joked that he believes he has enough money to run over three years before he has to do another Scooby Doo sequel.

He noted he’s not hiring yet despite getting inquiries from wrestlers, referees and more following the Helwani interview.

While not fully committed to the length of a TV product, he said he is thinking the show will be two hours to start, but doubts he will have a TV contract right away.

His group will have storylines based in reality with men and women getting equal time.

He said he wants his wrestlers to also become Screen Actors Guild members, entitling them to benefits that SAG members get like insurance, medical benefits and retirement plans that entails.

He said he has already begun making investments in the company, recently purchasing an expensive used light kit that is sitting in his storage facility.

He would be looking to bring on a booker as he “can’t book to save his life” but knows what he is good at which is the creative end of things.

Prinze was a member of WWE creative from 2008-09 and 2010-12.